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    Posted: 12 Oct 2009 at 3:32pm

After much thought we have decided to no longer offer customers the facility to offset carbon emissions via responsibletravel.com

 

My main reason for this is that I believe the travel industry’s priority must be to reduce carbon emissions, rather than to offset. I am concerned that offsets have become a distraction for tourists from the real issue which is one of reduction.

 

Whilst I acknowledge that offsets do have a role to play for the traveller who has already done their utmost to reduce their emissions, my concern is that too few people use them in this way.

 

We have taken advice from Friends of the Earth to put in place a clear, alternative ‘carbon caution’ to travellers offering advice and tips (see www.responsibletravel.com/carboncaution ).

 

I'd welcome your discussion on this in this forum.

 

Best wishes

 

Justin



Edited by Jarv - 15 Oct 2009 at 9:58am
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  Quote Liz Lord Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2009 at 5:59pm
A good idea I think Justin - nothing quite like "offsetting" to push matters under the carpet some what - but reducing more of an immediate in-house consideration.  Well considered. Liz
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  Quote utw Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2009 at 6:02pm
I couldn't agree with you more Justin. We've been saying this for years now, and actively encourage our clients to only use carbon offsets as a 'last resort'. Glad to here other people are seeing it that way too. Anyone interested can take a look at our Responsible Tourism policy for more details on our thoughts about carbon offsets.
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  Quote Burnbrae Holidays Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2009 at 6:37pm
I agree with your reasons. We offer self-catering cottages 3 miles from town. No bus service. A few customers arrive by taxi or we collect them by (hybrid) car. We offer to offset free of charge to customer co2 emissions incurred in journey to Burnbrae and whilst enjoying the Scottish Borders. many take up this offer but some do not.
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  Quote Paul Easto Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2009 at 10:35am
Hi Justin
 
I am in complete agreement with your policy on this matter.
 
Over the past three years I have become increasingly concerned with the application of carbon offsetting as a tool to mitigate climate change. As part of a hierarchy e.g. as advocated by the Carbon Trust, it certainly has its place. However, I share your concern that it is perceived as a mechanism by which businesses and individuals can continue without change.
 
The 5 tips you promote are in accordance with our business strategy in the content of domestic tourism (Wilderness Scotland) and international tourism (Wilderness Journeys).
 
If the IPCC target of 2 tonnes CO2 per capita by 2050 is an accurate projection, it is inevitable that radical changes will be required in travel choices and behaviours.
 
Regards
 
Paul    
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  Quote chris.mchugo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2009 at 10:38am
I am not an expert but reduce, reuse recycle, and recycle. I think this is a useful initiative from an important supplier. However we should all do what we can to give grass roots support to the Copenhagen Talks in December as they appear to be critical to getting some binding approach to Carbon Reduction. wr c
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  Quote devon teas Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2009 at 2:12pm
I really commend your decision to stop carbon off setting, it appears to be mainly a method of appeasing peoples "guilt" for profligate activities.
What should really be stopped is people flying purely for holidays, as it is so harmful to our environment and uses up precious resources that are being depleted unnecessarily.
Real responsible travel, would not be encouraging long haul destinations or short haul flights for holidays. We should be encouraging less travel not more, although this would make a mockery of your business model, so that is not going to happen.
Therefore I am very interested in your statement that the "travel industry's priority must be to reduce carbon emissions". How does RT propose to do that ?
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  Quote coz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Oct 2009 at 3:26pm
Removing carbon offsets requires individuals and organisations to take a naked look at their total carbon output. How much can it be reduced and by what means and cost? Additionally, it requires a solid look at non/low carbon based energy production - wind and sun to further reduce the total carbon footprint. Making these decisions will make a person feel better about a long haul flight to remote paradise locations or indeed think, no, I ll holiday closer to home. Or,  I ll ration my long distance travel and do it only once I ve installed a wind turbine or solar panels....hmmm, this thinking creeps back towards offsets. Merely offsetting without active steps to reducing total carbon footprint is not enough and we do not have this luxury. Don't buy the long haul flight this year - buy the panels/wind turbine - go next year - if you really feel you have to.
Do we really have to holiday 10,000 miles away?
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  Quote LedaBVCO Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Oct 2009 at 6:37pm
This issue is tricky for a great number of reasons, and I am happy to read the discussion it has spawned. I would like to add a bit of a counter-perspective, however. It is quite true that just maintaining status quo operations is akin to apathy, and this act of removing carbon offsetting by Responsible Travel is quite bold, and will ultimately be necessary to enact positive change. However, I would question the efficacy of removing it at this particular moment in time. There is no question among intelligent environmentalist of the following two premises, 1) we are currently in trouble because of excessive carbon consumption habits, and 2) carbon offsetting is not the “solution” to reducing carbon consumption. Unfortunately, we cannot yet declare the first statement false, and until we can, carbon offsetting must be considered an effective short term solution that helps us to work toward it.

Yes, carbon offsetting may indeed be a short term solution for a very long term problem that we face. The truth remains, however, that carbon offsetting does reduce global emissions immediately, something most other climate education campaigns cannot claim. Done correctly and in conjunction with educating the public about reducing the carbon footprint first, carbon offsetting can simultaneously achieve quantifiable reductions in global emissions, whilst bringing tangible environmental, social, and health benefits to communities where the projects are implemented.

Most importantly, perhaps, is how offsetting raises awareness about individual carbon consumption. Previous comments have cited targets for per capita emissions, though I challenge anyone ask someone who has never offset a flight how much carbon a transatlantic flight will produce, or ask someone who has never considered offsetting emissions associated with their lifestyle how much their car or heating choice produces. Without a reference point, this 2 t.p.a. target truly means nothing to the average consumer. Offsetting personalizes, quantifies, and allows individuals to take ownership for their emissions choices.

The sort of paradigm shift that Responsible Travel is promoting is indeed noble, but will be difficult to realize. I do applaud their effort and look forward to seeing exactly how they propose to use the travel industry to reduce carbon emissions. In the meantime, I hope that truly responsible travelers will still consider offsetting what they do emit.

Sincerely,

Leda Smith
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  Quote krichards Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Nov 2009 at 10:56am

It’s a real shame that an industry leader in responsible tourism should move so completely away from offering offsets as this potentially leaves a gaping hole in a wider engagement process and risks driving businesses and consumers away from doing anything at all.

 

ABTA set up Reduce My Footprint (www.reducemyfootprint.travel) with the aim of giving the travelling public as well as the industry an opportunity to do something around the carbon reduction agenda. In fact we do have a carbon calculator at the core of RMF but it is very much pitched as part of a hierarchy of ‘avoid-reduce-replace-offset’. We worked with the industry and organisations such as Forum for the Future and Manchester Metropolitan University to put together the RMF scheme.

 

What we’ve tried to do is make it clear to consumers and businesses that everything we do in our lives has an impact on the environment – washing, heating, lighting, driving, shopping, flying etc. In almost all of these areas there are things we can do here and now to avoid or reduce reliance on fossil fuels and lower our individual emissions (and save money!) And in some areas the opportunities to replace fossil fuel energy reliance with alternatives are increasing all the time.

 

What we are left with, in particular the flying bit of our travel choices, provides few options to consumers. We certainly don’t believe that simply encouraging people to pay for absolution is going to change any consumer or company behaviour. But that’s not what we offer with RMF and not why we offer it. Currently some of the money goes into offset projects (certified and verified) but for us the important element is the amount that goes into destination projects – some of which are about reducing carbon and others are about improving economics and livelihoods. It's this important element of contributing to the kind of destinations they may well go to on holiday that resonates with consumers. So, calculating the carbon and contributing to projects that optimise the benefits our travel decisions bring to destinations and to projects that reduce carbon, should be part of that engagement process. RMF is not perfect, but one thing it certainly isn't is a carbon offsetting scheme.

 

It is also our responsibility as ABTA to provide all sorts of engagement tools. RMF now sits alongside a number of other initiatives such as Travelife (www.its4travel.com) which is designed to encourage tour operators to make informed decisions about their suppliers (largely hotels at present) and also give suppliers the facts and incentives to perform more efficiently (and carbon reduction is part of that) and also engage more closely with local communities. We have also just launched the results of stage one of Tourism 2023 - our strategic future-proofing work with Forum for the Future. We have developed four plausible scenarios and a shared vision. So far we have ABTA, The Travel Founcation, TUI, Thomas Cook, The Co-operative Travel, Carnival UK, BA, Sunvil and Advantage Travel Centres signed up. The report is at http://www.forumforthefuture.org/projects/tourism-2023

 

Of course one of the travel industry’s priorities must be to reduce carbon emissions and we share some of the concerns about offsetting and its role in an increasingly regulated carbon trading environment. But not all the tools in this arena are about paying for guilt. RMF remains a very potent tool for engaging consumers.

Keith Richards
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